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Old Apr 26, 2009, 11:45 PM // 23:45   #121
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It should change every time you rezone i think, some times there are just more of some though
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 05:41 AM // 05:41   #122
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Zoo's awesome, the best part of the update for me. Got all the pets except the spiders (I gave up my widow to get a rainbow phoenix ages back, so back to UW I go), and I love how you can wander the island and see them all there.

As for if you keep the same pet, well, if you release it, then it's gone forever and you can charm a new one, but it won't be the same. But you don't actually need to release it I think. Show it to Emryd (think that was the one). It'll say something like "Do I have this in my collection?" (or "look at margrid's pet") and it'll say a lvl20 (or whatever) pet has been added to your collection. Then it'll ask if you want to release it, just say no. The pet will still be unlocked and your precious that you hand raised will still be with you. Think so anyway, still got my strider and it says the moa birds lvl20 dire, hearty etc are all unlocked. Same with masters of whispers and his black moa. Though I released the elder black moa for a hearty black moa later (for 2000 balth faction).
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 03:49 PM // 15:49   #123
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I'll be charming every single pet and training them to lvl 20 so I can unlock all the tiers. C: I love pets~
Me, too. I've already added everything to the menagerie except the two spiders, and have gotten a few of them to top tier. I'm using this as an opportunity to do some in-depth research on how pets get assigned XP, which looks (so far) as if it might be a function of the owner's XP.

I've also spent some time trying to find and charm pre-evolved level 15 pets to save some time getting them to top tier. I've managed to get an elder wolf on Spearhead Peak and an elder crane in Pongmei Valley. So far I have not been successful at getting the elder reef lurker in Boreas Seabed, though I haven't given up, and it seems that the elder crocs in Verdant Cascades are not charmable. I already had top-tier orange and white tigers, so I didn't go after the elder tiger in Pongmei or the elder white in Melandru's Hope.

Are there any other charmable evolved animals out there, other than the Black Moa, Black Widow, and those I've listed?
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 10:45 PM // 22:45   #124
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Has anyone figured out what the point of this place is yet?
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 10:51 PM // 22:51   #125
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Has anyone figured out what the point of this place is yet?
That's quite easy. I though everyone knew:
- 1. PvP characters can now change evolutions and choose between piercing and slashing pets (spiders, flying birds and reptiles deal piercing damage, the rest seems to deal slashing). Pets are now fair in PvP. Make some PvP Zaishen quests, which give more points than the rest, unlock an eagle, unlock the tiers for your wolf and the eagle until they both are at tier 7, and you have all evolutions and damage types.
- 2. Gotta catch 'em all!
- 3. $. XD

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Old Apr 30, 2009, 08:16 AM // 08:16   #126
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That's quite easy. I though everyone knew:
- 1. PvP characters can now change evolutions and choose between piercing and slashing pets (spiders, flying birds and reptiles deal piercing damage, the rest seems to deal slashing). Pets are now fair in PvP. Make some PvP Zaishen quests, which give more points than the rest, unlock an eagle, unlock the tiers for your wolf and the eagle until they both are at tier 7, and you have all evolutions and damage types.
- 2. Gotta catch 'em all!
- 3. $. XD
I catch all pet except moss spider (not worthing to buy at the moment).
My best pet remain dire black widow but i must admit that this place may have a sense if will some buff to pet usage.
Someone suggest compression bar (1 slot instead of 2).
Pvp maybe ok with pet but in pve they sucks (except never rampage alone spear chuker).

The ideal thing to revive pet gamin is compression bar + more reactive pet.
They take to long to change objective.
Maybe some elite need a buff.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 09:15 AM // 09:15   #127
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I've found that as an assassin, the easiest way to level the pets to hearty and lvl 20 is bring them along for keg farming. Grab your 3 ranger heros, each with a different pet and run to to the farm spot. Flag them near the entrance while you go round up the vaettir. Once the left side of vaettir are all mobbing you, flag the heros to your location. Once the pets are within your aggro bubble, keg away. Repeat with the right side. Took me less than an hour to raise 3 lvl 5 pets to lvl 20 and hearty.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 01:21 PM // 13:21   #128
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I've just got all the pets excepting the Moss Spider to top tier. I really like this part of the update, since it's something us rangers have been wanting since forever.

I find the fastest way to get an animal unlocked is:
  • Load up 2 Rezmer heroes (and a monk if you don't need the third slot) with: [Mending] [Resurrection Signet] [Restore Life] [Resurrect]
  • Ensure [Restore Life] is specced high enough to resurrect with 1hp, and disable their skills.
  • Make your way to the animal you want.
  • Put on your cheap armor with five superior runes and aggro the animal, setting heroes to avoid combat.
  • Enable Restore Life on all heroes.

In around half an hour you'll be charming a lvl 20 dire animal. I have used this method for most pets. As long as you can get to it - using henchies and filling out with decent skills if you need to then sending them away when the area around the pet is cleared.

It's faster to use [Resurrect] on each hero, as you immediately die again but the pet still gains XP, with 3 heroes you can level a pet to 20 in around 20 minutes. You do end up with an un-evolved pet, but adding the last tier costs only 2000 faction.

Using [Resurrect] has been advantageous in the Menagerie itself since the pets won't attack, so doing them a little damage before saccing to death and beginning the process gives you a lvl 20 hearty animal to charm. It does take longer though, since you invariably end up leveling two animals at once.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 01:32 PM // 13:32   #129
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I suggest doing a combo of taming low level pets and then doing the Zaishen PvP quests to upgrade them to level 20 with all evolutions.

A level 5 pet only costs 1000 balthazar faction, but you can save yourself this by just taming them. The Wiki and the Zaishen pet dudes tell you where you can find the pet in question.

You then upgrade them with faction, faster and more efficient than death levelling them or doing something else.

The HB and RA Zaishen quests are easy ways to get faction:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zaish...agerie_Grounds

9K faction are needed to fully unlock a pet. If you do not tame the pet yourself, 1K faction more (10K all in all) are enough to fully unlock a pet.


OK, you cannot do this AFK, but balthazar faction is so abundant nowadays, you can also say you pay 2 Zaishen Keys to evolve your pet.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 10:29 PM // 22:29   #130
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Load up 2 Rezmer heroes (and a monk if you don't need the third slot) with: [Mending] [Resurrection Signet] [Restore Life] [Resurrect]
Why would you use all those skills if you can bring [flesh of my flesh (pve)]

16 FC mesmer rezes faster than you can fall.

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Old Apr 30, 2009, 11:00 PM // 23:00   #131
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A single stable npc in an existing town would have been fine.

I think the resources it took to create and implement this mess could have been better spent elsewhere in the game.
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Old May 01, 2009, 12:12 AM // 00:12   #132
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A single stable npc in an existing town would have been fine.

I think the resources it took to create and implement this mess could have been better spent elsewhere in the game.
Like what?

and considering this was done in coder SPARE TIME (as confirmed by Linsey in Martin and my interview with heron air Tuesday) and for information, it was Joe in the dev department that came up with it AND the stylist... in his spare time
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Old May 01, 2009, 12:42 AM // 00:42   #133
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Now if only pets were buffed...
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Old May 01, 2009, 03:18 AM // 03:18   #134
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i so love the zoo! and thanks to a ton of grind >_> i was able to unlock the moss spider! WOOT! now my zoo is complete! now to work on getting a large pack or two. >_> woho back to grinding *bangs head on a wall*
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Old May 01, 2009, 05:15 AM // 05:15   #135
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Yay. Only the spiders left!

Now I have to get the Black Widow... that shouldn't bee to hard...
The worst one is the Moss Spider... how much does one of those eggs cost?

I better start saving gold coins...
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Old May 01, 2009, 06:31 AM // 06:31   #136
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Yay. Only the spiders left!

Now I have to get the Black Widow... that shouldn't bee to hard...
The worst one is the Moss Spider... how much does one of those eggs cost?

I better start saving gold coins...
There have been a couple of Moss Spider eggs on the auctions for 35k
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Old May 01, 2009, 06:50 AM // 06:50   #137
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Yay. Only the spiders left!

Now I have to get the Black Widow... that shouldn't bee to hard...
The worst one is the Moss Spider... how much does one of those eggs cost?

I better start saving gold coins...
There's also rainbow phoenix where you need 10 maxed title to get it.
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Old May 01, 2009, 07:46 AM // 07:46   #138
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So are players able to see another players zoo and there tame their pets? if so we will see a market for dire lvl 20 pets soon.
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Old May 01, 2009, 08:04 AM // 08:04   #139
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As far as I know it is not possible to take someone else to the Menagerie, only you and your heroes.
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Old May 01, 2009, 09:07 AM // 09:07   #140
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I've just got all the pets excepting the Moss Spider to top tier. I really like this part of the update, since it's something us rangers have been wanting since forever.

I find the fastest way to get an animal unlocked is:
  • Load up 2 Rezmer heroes (and a monk if you don't need the third slot) with: [Mending] [Resurrection Signet] [Restore Life] [Resurrect]
Nice idea, tough i'm no fan of that touch target corpse rez so i'd suggest using instead:

[Echo][Resurrect][Ether Signet][Resurrection Chant] and disable res chant so they only use it when you need the rez at end.

make sure you kill of one of the 2 hostile pets if you lvl like this (only one gets xp then duh ) and lock the heroes to that pet (or they won't use echo..)
and if you do get a elder like this you can death lvl the normal way by asking for a lvl 15 agressive pet at that zaishen guy (wich do attack)

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